Parade traces the paths of The Outsiders movie cast and caught up with what they’re up to now. But when Bryan falls in love, Mark feels betrayed and lonely. Yikes. This Is Now? Learn vocabulary, terms, and more with flashcards, games, and other study tools. Johnny now senses the uselessness of fighting; he knows that Ponyboy is better than the average hoodlum, and he wants Ponyboy to hold onto the golden qualities that set him apart from his companions. Ponyboy Michael Curtis is the narrator and protagonist of the 1967 novel The Outsiders, and its 1983 film adaptation. It didn't even end like the book did. Ponyboy Michael Curtis is the protagonist of The Outsiders and a character featured in That Was Then, This Is Now. See the movie for yourself. The film is very realistic and the performances are really good. You might come to different conclusion than I did. S.E. It appears that C. Thomas Howell, the actor who played the starring role of Ponyboy Curtis in the movie grew up to have quite the lucrative acting career as an adult. It's pretty close to Rumble Fish and The outsiders (both also S.E. And Ponyboy,Tim/Curley Shepard, and Randy make a apperance in that was then this is now What are some similarities between book and movie because of winn dixie? And even Angela wasn't a great actress. Directed by Christopher Cain. While all these actors from the 1983 film are recognizable names, some have been more successful than others. FAQ Rest of the cast are fine. Hinton was 18 when the book was published. This movie was really bad. Childhood friendship ends when one of the boys discovers girls and leaves his wingman behind. 13.49; Download full-text PDF Read full-text. The movie did not go in to as much detail as the book did. job here with awesome camera work, solid angles giving the film some good atmosphere and keeping it at an engrossing pace. Ponyboy Curtis, the youngest member of the greasers, narrates the novel. Craig Sheffer is just as good, he was really likable, and you will feel happy for him because he is getting his life on track and is growing up, it's just too bad his career never really took off, because he impressed the hell out of me here!. He got his first big acting role in Steven Spielberg’s E.T., playing the role of cigarette-smoking Tyler when he was just 12 years old. Hinton-based adaptations. This book had alot of impact on me when I read it so very long ago-the movie wasn't terrible-though I really CAN understand people feeling cheated by it. The Greasers walk Cherry and M… Yikes. If anything, Bryan still felt what I would say "carnalismo" in him after getting beat-up by the Sheperd brothers as well as feel responsible for stopping the violence, rather than looking like a whipped pup!! That Was Then, This Is Now will make you think." Decent film on it's own, but not as good as the book. If you read the book then you would know how dark and depressing it was. This movie really should've had S.E. When I saw the movie I actually liked it. In English class, we read S.E. A very young Craig Sheffer plays his best friend Bryan. Jilted friend resorts to cockblocking. I really can't blame Emilio Estevez since the studio made him change the ending and I know he wouldn't have intended to write a happy ending. END SPOILER. While the setting was from years past, the ethical questions raised and the teenage situations were quite apropos. Cathy was cute too but her acting was pretty bad. If it would've been directed by Francis Coppola, it might've been better but, this movie was really bad. Take your favorite fandoms with you and never miss a beat. In the movie Bryon didnt call the cops on Mark. It was 37 years ago, in March 1983, that "The Outsiders" opened in movie theaters nationwide, taking Tulsa author S.E. The movie did a horrible job replicating that. Yet, Emilio Estevez does manage to save his character somewhat, it's Bryan that was under-scored heavily, they should've represented more of that downtown background he has in the book, but alas, they made him nothing but a reformed punk akin to the Mark in the movie (which, alone I will say is good, but this is based on the book, I guess that spoiled it for me.) The Dairy Queen in the movie was actually a Tastee Freeze and has since been converted into an appliance repair shop. Mark would be my nephew to a T,a booty hound and a clever little mischief-maker whom anyone upon meeting can forgive since his untouchability and good-nature are very apparent,not like some swinging-you-know-what (I HATE censorship!!!!!) The bond between Estevez and Sheffer really was incredible, and it was so sad when they started drifting apart, and Morgan Freeman has a small but very memorable part here as Charlie the bartender, plus the ending is really moving, and will really make you think, but it also leaves the viewer smiling! that bases his life on all the rampant going on's in the hood'. Jo Ellen Misakian, a librarian at Lone Star Elementary School in Fresno, California, and her students were responsible for inspiring Coppola to make the film. adamgrrrl73, tearinmyeye, ArianneMaya, Tada, robinmatshe, Glitterwriter, Carol2169, tattoo50, Eowyn_Rohan, dayflower1, and casey270 as well as 9 guests left kudos on this work! The Acting is amazing!. Free download or read online That Was Then, This Is Now pdf (ePUB) book. The main characters of this young adult, fiction story are Ponyboy Curtis, Bryon Douglas. For the character's main article, see Ponyboy Curtis on The Outsiders Wiki. https://that-was-then-this-is-now.fandom.com/wiki/Ponyboy_Curtis?oldid=4534. But really, the movie was pretty bad. Hinton's early works aren't among them. Sixteen-year-old Mark and Bryon have been like brothers since childhood, but now, as their involvement with girls, gangs, and drugs increases, their relationship seems to gradually disintegrate. (Emilio Rules!!!!!!!). I'm not going to start on Christopher Cain, even though his movies tend to bite the dust..... At least this one had some decent acting, but characterization is what made the book by S.E.Hinton so powerful, And, yes, against better judgement, I will compare this to the book, with SPOILERS.... Mark in the book is popular likeable and dare-devilish, in the movie he's seems to be nothing but a punk w/ dare-devilish inclinations!! But S.E. Will be on my buy list when I get a little money. In That Was Then, This Is Now, one of her most admired novels, S. E. Hinton paints a richly textured portrait of two boys at a crossroads in their friendship. And if you're hoping for a sequel, prepare to be disappointed. The quotation also recalls the period of time during which the boys’ friendship blossoms and solidifies—the idyllic interlude at the church. Susan Eloise Hinton, known to her multitudes of readers as "S. E. Hinton," a trick that she and her early publisher used to mask her gender, is credited with revolutionizing the young adult book industry with the 1967 publication of her coming-of-age book, The Outsiders, which she published when she was only seventeen years old. Christopher Cain does an excellent! one of the most powerful scenes in the movie for me is when Bryan, and Mark get into a fight because Mark was responsible for giving drugs to M&M,and Estevez and Sheffer had brilliant chemistry together, plus this is truly an underrated gem. Mark never stole the principals car. They were not impressed at all and everyone agreed that it is not a good portrayal of the book. ), but other Outsiders (most notably Tim Shepard) remained intact without aging a day-- effectively destroying any continuity it might have had with the film it was undoubtedly cashing in on. I always loved S.E. The ending is what really made it bad. Morgan Freeman plays the owner of a local bar that the boys frequent, and does a fine job. Mark doesn't get into drugs, he just sells them. I was satisfied with how they used the important stuff from the book, but when I saw the ending it diminished my opinion on this movie. 1 Appearance 2 Personality 3 The Outsiders 4 References and Citations Ponyboy is the youngest of the greaser gang. ... (Ponyboy Curtis) ... in another Hinton book-turned movie, That Was Then, This Is Now. The year after "The Outsiders" hit the screen, Ralph Macchio made a big splash as the star of "Karate Kid." Overall a must see for everyone!. Still, Mark and Bryon made things interesting both in the book and the movie. I still managed to slightly enjoy both. If you loved the book then do yourself a favor and don't see this movie. Despite this, I thought it was pretty good, and I liked it until the last few scenes. All the characters are excellent, and I was lucky enough to find this at my video store and buy it for 1$ at the VHS blow out sale, plus Emilio Estevez and Craig Sheffer are simply incredible in this!. "That Was Then...This Is Now" followed the book relatively closely up until the last scenes. The Direction is excellent!. That Was Then, This Is Now is a coming-of age, young adult novel by S. E. Hinton, first published in 1971.Set in the 1960s, it follows the relationship between two friends, Mark Jennings and Bryon Douglas, who are like brothers, but find their friendship rapidly changing and deteriorating. Awards Also the movie had Mark steal a car at the end with a police chase instead of having Bryan turn Mark in to the police for dealing drugs. were bigger hits, these movies along with a couple of others were incredibly important in what it means to be a friend, what it meant to grow up, and what it meant to grow up in the 80's. Sep 06, 2010. This movie was not very good. 109). Start studying That Was Then, This Is Now Study Guide. they are on a street to nowhere in their lives. If that was the case, I could see giving good 'ole Emilio a pat on the head and saying "That's it kid...keep reaching for the stars! Perhaps the filmmakers wanted this to stand on its own from Coppola's then-recent "Outsiders" adaptation, but this likely hurt "That Was Then...This Is Now" in more ways than it helped it. This Is Now is one of the best early performances of Emilo Estvez as a writer and actor. Contains Spoiler I read the book before I saw the movie, so the book influenced my opinion of the movie. Bryon finds new respect for Pony at the dance after he lets Bryon know that Mark has been hurt. Hinton involved and Francis Coppola should've directed. User Ratings The movie was funny and interesting. Someone needs to be blamed for this poor excuse of a film! If it would've ended like the book, it could've been a little better but not by much. It was horrible. It’ll never be the same again. I feel sorry for SE Hinton that her story was so poorly portrayed. *minor spoilers*. Ponyboy realizes that Cherry is nothing like the Socs he has met before. SPOILER!!! With careful, intimate strokes, Hinton reveals a boy struggling over whether to protect his best friend or whether to … SPOILER: he gets killed. Actually, as Bryon learns, Ponyboy, a quiet and shy teenager, had no idea that Angela was interested in him, although he does know that Bryon is mad at him for something. Okay, I've seen this movie at Language Arts class AFTER I read the book. All of the actors in the film give equally good performacnes in particular Morgan Freemen and Craig Sheffer. The story revolves around the two main characters friendship and the tough S.E. The description they gives is kinda wrong. That Was Then, This Is Now is the story of two working class youths who look like And we don't know this till the end of the film anyway. The book, set in the late 60s, was essentially a follow-up to "The Outsiders," picking up a few months after its TV Series left off. Empathy, the ability to see things through another person's perspective, is central to the resolution of both the gang and the family conflict in The Outsiders.The two gangs' preoccupation with the appearance and class status of their rivals underscores the superficiality of their mutual hostility, which thrives on stereotypes and prejudice. This is a very underrated and unknown film. Always happy-endings. I have not yet read the book but I did really enjoy this movie, and this is very well made and written as well, plus I felt sorry for Emilio's character. The book was really different from the movie. They steal cars and get in fights, but Sheffer is clearly the more well-behaved of the two. Someday...just someday...you'll make it"! But I can forgive these things, what made me vote 6 on this was the ending, happy 80's music and a "lighten-up dude" ending. That Was Then, This is Now study guide contains a biography of S. E. Hinton, literature essays, quiz questions, ... described as blue-black, and is so strikingly beautiful that she could “be a movie star” (pg. The casting was decent but again, couldn't save the movie. She had no emotion just like when she was in the hospital waiting room with her dad. The book was published in multiple languages including English, consists of 159 pages and is available in Paperback format. "The movie was okay, but the book was better". Although Cathy makes jokes to Bryon about Ponyboy asking her out - when she wants Bryon to - at the end of the story, Ponyboy and Cathy do start dating, and as a result, Bryon pushes her away. The Outsiders is a 1983 American coming-of-age drama film directed by Francis Ford Coppola.The film is an adaptation of the 1967 novel of the same name by S. E. Hinton and was released on March 25, 1983 in the United States. M&M was way different in the movie because he wasnt calm and the book said he was very calm and in the movie he was very demanding. They enjoy getting into brawls, stealing cars, and hanging out at the local bar. But this isn't a sequel, because it doesn't otherwise continue the story of The Outsiders. Morgan Freeman is excellent as their bar owning older pal. They made Emilio the center of the story when, the bond between Mark and Bryon was supposed to be the center. It would be easier for me to forgive the movie if it didn't have that cheesy, happy 80's music playing at the end. Sarah Ryan "That Was Then, This Is Now" is set a few years later, in the same town as "The Outsiders" and some of the characters are similar. The ending freaked me out. That Was Then, This Is Now Wiki is a FANDOM Books Community. Hinton's creation from classic novel to a film beloved by (you'll see what I mean when you watch it). That Was Then...This Is Now is decent 80s Teen film and although it is filled with good direction and great performances it is still the weakest S.E Hinton film adaptation but still has good things about it. The book was okay, not great. She dumped Bryon to pursue Ponyboy, and when he … Well, did Ponyboy “ ”? The Outsiders is a coming-of-age novel by S. E. Hinton, first published in 1967 by Viking Press.Hinton was 15 when she started writing the novel but did most of the work when she was 16 and a junior in high school. That is why I liked the book so much because it doesn't cheapen the story by having a happy ending. The story generated a great deal of quality discussion in class...education at it's finest. I thought it would have been a good ending- for a whole different movie, for "That Was Then...", it was wrong, and in my opinion ruined the movie. The first edition of the novel was published in 1971, and was written by S.E. Emilio penned the script and stars as the dangerous and wild Mark. Audience Reviews for That Was Then...This Is Now. Hinton novels). The two have lived together since they were 9 and are practically brothers. Two juvenile delinquents find themselves growing apart, for one is growing up, and the other is staying young and reckless. Emilio Estevez is amazing as always and is incredible here, his character was a trouble maker, but was just so likable, that you are able to feel sorry for his character, I especially felt bad for him near the end, he also had brilliant chemistry with Craig Sheffer, brought lots of energy and charm to the role, and just did an amazing job this is one of his best performances! Sheffer and Emilio are both very good and fun to watch. I actually liked the movie until it ended. That was then, this was now was, to my opinion, a pretty good movie, with plenty of action to keep you interested. For one thing, Ponyboy is mentioned in it. Ponyboy theorizes on the motivations and personalities of his friends and describes events in a slangy, youthful voice. Her second effort, 1971's That Was Then, This Is Now, also dealt with the realistic themes of youth violence and tragedy that had characterized her first work, and some critics considere… Rated R for Language,Drug Content and Some Violence. This is an excellent underrated film, that's often quite powerful and gripping, with a great story and amazing performances!. This Is Now on Scripts.com! Estevz brings Mark to life they way S.E.Hinton intened by being brutal and cut throat in his performace. The movie was not as good as the book. you may not have caught it, he's called "Curtis" most of "That Was Then, This Is Now". As result of this questionable rewrite, the novel's focus on the greaser/soc conflict dying off is completely absent, as are other time period-specific subplots. Morgan Freeman is amazing in his small role as the Bartender and as always couldn't take my eyes off him when he was on screen (Freeman Rules!!!!!!!). SPOILER I think that the book was funny and interesting. Though only fourteen years old, he understands the way his social group functions and … I always loved S.E. | That Was Then, This is Now study guide contains a biography of S. E. Hinton, literature essays, quiz questions, major themes, characters, and a full summary and analysis. External Reviews They also briefly talk to Ponyboy, who is simply referred to as 'Curtis' and is now dating Angela Shepherd. Only thing wrong with this movie-- the decision to "update" the story to make it contemporary. Mark was caught while driving by the cops and Bryon went to Mark to see him and Bryon wasnt mad at mark. The main character, Bryon, was sometimes enjoyable to watch and sometimes hard to watch. Authors: Laurie Spiegel. Holy crap guys he said "that was then and this is now" learn how to read. And of course, Morgan Freeman was awesome as he always is but his part wasn't major in this movie. Bryon stayed with Cathy instead of leaving her. | This is an excellent underrated film, that's often quite powerful and gripping, with a great story and amazing performances, and I say it's a must see for everyone!. Also, it takes place in the same city. The Outsiders was only his second film ever. Hinton's novels as a kid: The Outsiders, Rumble Fish (which in my opinion, is the greatest film adaptation in the series despite everyone's fascination with The Outsiders), Tex, and That Was Then This is Now. In the novel, Ponyboy has light-brown hair and greenish-gray eyes. This movie disappointed me. What happened to Ponyboy on the way home from the movie in S. E. Hinton's ... Darry then yells at him for the same thing ... Q&A, and analyses you need to get better grades now. I was born in 1970. The character of Ponyboy was taken out of this film for obvious reasons (why would he still be 16 in 1985? It's a very Hinton-esquire story. In the book Brian and Cathy are not together and in the movie they are still together. I loved the book, but this movie really depressed me at how much better it could've been. April 1996; Computer Music Journal 20(1):42-45; DOI: 10.2307/3681268. Actually, as Bryon learns, Ponyboy, a quiet and shy teenager, had no idea that Angela was interested in him, although he does … Metacritic Reviews. Hinton's saga of teenage angst. So, later on and throughout the movie Craig Sheffer seems like a wooden jerk to Mark, rather than representing the inner-turmoil that Bryan feels when he wants to change. The book was later adapted into a 1985 film starring Emilio Estevez and Craig Sheffer. The book was okay - somewhat enjoyable and besides the ending, the movie was true to the book. Bryon’s mom: The widowed mother of Bryon who has essentially adopted Mark, as well. Some novels lend themselves to that kind of reinterpretation easily, but S.E. Ponyboy is one of Mark's friends, although Bryon holds a grudge against him because Ponyboy had the good sense to stay away from Angela Shepard. Hinton. | The acting was pretty bad, except for Emilio Estivez who actually was enduring and cute. Tom Cruise, Patrick Swayze, Rob Lowe, Emilio Estevez, Matt Dillon, Ralph Macchio, C. Thomas Howell -- this was the cast Francis Ford Coppola assembled for The Outsiders -- but where are they now? At the end of the novel, she is dating Ponyboy Curtis. That Was Then, This Is Now This edition published in 1971 by Dell in New York, USA. The end of the book is really different from the end of the movie because at the end of the book Brian was afraid of Mark and at the end of the movie Mark forgave Brian. In all, if your gonna make the movie fluff, at least leave the ending to strike you! However it is nowhere as good as the book. I feel and love and cry over Ponyboy and his story, however, I want to question, analyze, and … His gang, including his older brothers Darry (who is the de facto leader of the gang) and Sodapop, saves him. A lot of the other characters, such as Cathy, M&M, Charlie, Angela, and the shepherd brothers also made the movie and the book interesting, especially near the end. Ponyboy makes a brief appearance in Hinton's second novel That Was Then, This is Now. Hinton's novels as a kid: The Outsiders, Rumble Fish (which in my opinion, is the greatest film adaptation in the series despite everyone's fascination with The Outsiders), Tex, and That Was Then This is Now. Actions ↑ Top; Comments (6) Comments. (spoilers), the book and movie were completely different, Better than the Outsiders but still could have been better. It is located at 3242 N. Peoria in Tulsa, OK. [Thanks to TLB] Editors Note: The lot has changed somewhat in the meantime and the structure of the Dairy Queen with its distinctive roof has now gone. That was then - This is now. Excellent underrated film, that's often quite powerful and gripping, with a great story, and amazing performances! The Web's largest and most comprehensive scripts resource. Hinton wrote this brilliant story about the downtown boyz who are always in trouble. I would only recommend seeing this if you're a big Morgan Freeman fan because his performance is pretty good and is worth seeing for his performance alone if you're a fan. The scene in which Emilio explains his parents demise is truly memorable and powerful. Yes, and I didn't even mention CHARACTERIZATION the supporting cast, only Morgan Freeman and Jill Schoelen (Angie Shepard) were true to form. ....should have stayed as one of those things that are always on the back burner! Learn vocabulary, terms, and more with flashcards, games, and other study tools. That was then, this is now. It would really have not been that difficult to just follow what was written in the book. Bryon and Mark, the main characters, meet a hippie named Randy, who was formerly (though it is not mentioned) Bob's best friend. He is portrayed by C. Thomas Howell in the film. It wasn't a "great" movie, but it was a great movie for me and is a great movie about growing up, deciding what is important, forming morals. He's cute so that helps, but his acting wasn't great and it ruined some of the scenes. | The characters however, look different from what I imagined in the book. But there was so much more going on in the book, so much more detail (as is usually the case). The next night, Ponyboy and his friends Dally and Johnny meet Cherry Valance and Marcia at a drive-in movie theatre. He should have also had talked to Mark instead of kicking him out of the house right off the bat. The students were enthralled with the story. Edition Description. It was good. She generally stays out of the boys’ personal lives, but treats them with love and compassion. ****1/2 out of 5. Hinton said this about That Was Then, This Is Now: "The Outsiders made you feel. That could not be more true. 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